Maggie: We want as many people to go through it in the early year ; we have them register during orientation for when they take it; telling them sessions fill up; do usually get most of the class during fall semester; logistically we have not found an alternative to the separate semester
Maggie was actually able to get 900 trained in the first semester, hasn't been done before
Haven't found way to do this without decreasing amount of training received; also have a support during all sessions; someone might need support, or being intentionally antagonistic, staff or grad student; one in every session, and don't feel comfortable without this; we don't have numbers to not do this
Alyse: We have 20 bit trainers; also have me Maggie () and 2 senior ones, maybe, but we don't like to do this since want confidential
we are able to do peabody, they have a smaller group, about 80, are able to do some grad students; schedule doesn't permit to do it in orientation; we do our best to get people trained as soon based
evidence-based: content retention is best in peer-led small group sessions; data just shows that over and over again; we have worked with new student orientation to have this large group, not as impactful, but gives people a lead into bit; they're getting something ahead of bit; this supplementary; it's a 4-hour long session; had 5 hours at one hour, and I said I could maybe take 30 mins off at each; no university i'm aware of has at least than 4 hours; i think there are other ways we can focus on education which does not sacrifice the integrity of the program;
have tried to figure it out, does not fit into the timeframe without sacrificing
rain: question; is the online portion of bit-training
alyse: online training is the federally required online training; this is by oie, beyond our jurisdiction we can't control this
the organization which does this has eaten the other companies, now it's just everfi
in terms of making it in-person, i don't see the value, what in-person would be gained for that versus
rain: in training we've gone to for bit, the restrictions are lax on paying attention
jemima: the culture around talking about it is sometimes "i was doing my homework the whole time"
natalie: people are allowed to use their phones, i understand why if they need to check out
alyse: id on't want to tell people to use their phone, possibly having to say "i didn't know what this was" and get up and leave; students are not supposed to use their laptop, ask that they use it briefly; don't have side conversations, don't act in ways
1/3 girls, ⅙ boys under eighteen have experienced sexual assault; audience is full of people, don't know if this is the first time they are learning, don't know if laughing is the way they feel safe about it; what we have tried to do is not laptops (homework is easier on laptops); as long as folks are not disruptive, we don't have support in audience to intervene on their behavior
maggie: expectation that you are showing up as adults to be in the community; showing up as yourself and committing yourself to this training
alyse: this is when it comes to people who are interested and engaged to have conversations
maggie: as well as conversations and other ideas
alyse: i think you have very good questions, you are right in line about what we're thinking about; I also wonder if how we're training the trainers and they're not following through, this is helpful to know about
maggie: recurring issues with trainers, i have been popping in to see
rain: seminar over lecture room
alyse: that would be helpful
rain
alyse: we had an activity that
natalie: seems what could make this more effective makes it more harmful for the people we don't want to be harming; is there some way to have own
maggie: asking people to identify themselves as survivors or not is against the evidence
alyse: we ask for those who opt out what they are interested in receiving
in my perspective, work we do is always 100% survivor focused; when we get things like feedback about green flags and re flag, people being in a place where someone took away their autonomy; my answer to that, in my role, is always going to err on the side of avoiding retraumatization or harm, even when, we have to do that when maybe cutting something else out, it should never be on the backs of someone who has experienced trauma to sacrifice themself another time another time to address sexual trauma as a public health issue; it's never an individual's choice whether someone choice; so often is a person harmed by a system, falls on them because they have seen the harm that's caused, falls on them to fix that
maggie: also see the point that sometimes the people who need the most slip through the easiest, i think the training accounts for this; this training alone does not immediately change behavior; the people who are paying attention with these trainings can have relation with the people who had interactions with those who did not; they can model the behavior for those who did not intend to learn or were close-minded; equipping those with the knowledge that this training is important to more effectively step in where things are in the communities
natalie: i think most of us do not remember out bit training; i came in stereotypical not super feminist, didn't think about these very heavily, when i was actually in situations, i didn't know what I was doing; I understand don't want to retraumatize; I feel there must be a way to grab the most problematic, i know with the FSL and athletics this is one way, if the training is not impacting people in these, i think often those who need the peer interventions
rain: i think i have somewhat of an answer, i think part of nat is saying that training for those who interested, i also felt like I didn't know what to do after, of what to do if something happened to my friends; i have a few ideas, want to keep on the line of questioning
alyse: i have some extra time also
rain: in my training, we spent a long time with definitions, not enough time practicing, and the question is also how do we avoid harming survivors, i wonder how much would be helpful to proliferate through the student organizations we are apart of
alyse: i love that idea, something i've been meaning to follow up on
rain: i know there are a lot of students out there; for those students who are comfortable in this self-selection, about bit training in general, wondering if can cut down on list of recommended resources; didn't know which were most useful; wonder if there is per-category, if there is something if you want to talk on-campus things. if you don't know where to start at all, my thing with we listen you decide, there's a lot of information, people can get confused
alyse; what if we just change the visual access to these slides
rain: training-wise, public speaking could be very helpful; felt bit trainers were reading off the slides very often didn't know the content, this is what people reported
natalie: training RAs or FYMs,
alyse: hard no, as their application process and training is much much different; i want our office to have control over who our trainers are
natalie: not saying train every ra, but encourage
sophia: bit trainers moving in earlier
maggie: have asked for this for a long time; go to housing
rain: public speaking; many bit trainers did not know how to project or present well, and these are not particularly difficult to do, i'm wondering if you are open to including this
alyse: we tell trainers explicitly not to go with statements like "if you guys talk this can be done quickly"
natalie: i don't remember the content of mine, i remember the monotone reading, weren't taking the topic very seriously; wonder if you could have theater kids teach them to read with emotion; the seriousness after doing it so many times can help
maggie: hiring-wise, have been hiring at the end of the academic year (april) by reaching out to everyone who has done the training
rain: faded things in the wall
alyse: if you notice any, you can come by and grab some; many who hang these up are not comfortable going into the bathrooms for men
rain: condoms go out pretty fast, also would drink covers be something considerable?
natalie: when worried about a friend displaying violent behaviors, do we have ways to address?
maggie & alyse: they can talk to us or mhs