also oversee academic support which oversee wse and ksas
marrow: associate director of advising for krieger school
martin: can give you information to understand how many there are for ksas versus wse
also the transfer process vs. transfer advisor processway it works (in krieger): there's another associate dean who oversees the whiting transfer processthere is also the success coaching
generally the way it works in krieger is that we have dwayne (transfer advisor) for all transfer students who are not in the success coaching program; he has a case load of about 60 transfer students; he is also responsible for a lot of the evaluation of those transfer students; students in the scaa program, they can have any advisor
postentiaolly 10 people that could be advising transfer students in kriger; but it's 60/40; approx 60% of transfer students are in the sucess coaching program (dwayne is their advisor); the remaining 40% could have any 1 of 9; i even have a couple who have special circumstances as transfer students
not sure how it works in whitign;
marrow: not in detail, don't know, nora, she i think does more of the advising for transfer students, linda malton is someone i work with for backend system/evaluations person, but i don't know how they assign them, i think it's more gen model from my knowledge
martin: not so sure about wse, they have a much smaller cohort of transfer students, possibly in addition to the caseload a [] of students
in terms of evaluation of transfer credits, quite complicated, and troubled i would say, effectively, ksas transfer students have in their aplication a preliminary transfer app, which does not have high details, what might count, very minimal, e.g., success for honors 101 at your college, and what happens is that when students are admitted and deposit and become students we start the official transfer evaluation process; this process involves differnet people and stages; multiple offices to make sure this is correct;
first point is the student gathering all fo their syllabi, gathering all of their materials; has been a struggle for us to get all this, and is struggle for students as well to provide; struggle on everyone's part, we can't start this until we get this from students;
next, every evaluation/course not evaluated in the last 5 years has to be sent out to faculty to evaluate, and they don't work in the summer, it's volunteering; process cannot be complete until all evaluations are complete at the same time; process gets stuck because faculty are spending time evaluating
once we get all the evaluations, we have a queue for the registrar, the registrar then has a system determining when they get to that
so there's this chain assembly line and it can get stuck in all these places
what we have said to students, and some have different expectations, some schools are very transfer friendly or forward, and they might have a full evaluation before they even accept the offer, e.g., public schools who are looking for students form other schools; they'd expect at the very least to have transfer done by the time they start; due to these problems, we might not be able to get this done so quick; what we say for students is to expect it done by registration in the spring
we do achieve this metric most of the time; back and forth, very often, like "this isn't a real syllabus" so we send back, or faculty has question
3 evaluators, 2 in saac
10 transfer advisors possibly
dwayne certainly has the majority
i will just also say, we are interested in improving the transfer student experience; if there's an issue with my advisor, you mentioned not being available, e.g., "doesn't respond to email" "doesn't meet with me" direct personnel issue, students with this issue if you tell them to contact me i can get them in contact with the right person and handle this as a case-by-case issue
if it's a more system problem, should definitely have a comprehensive/different conversation
very interested in having a transfer focus group
as a group, coming up with very tangible ways to figure these out; understand each other; i work with the sga a lot, i have a student advisor board/group, none of which are transfer, didn't want to have identities, but possible
will likely involve engineering dean, perhaps also advisors, unless about advisors
but having students and administrators talking about what process/things would be nice to have
student advising ambassador program; just started
basic goal: make advising student-led; want (worked alot with sga made the academic planning guide) to bring students in, see each others' perceptions, find best path together and move forward
would really like to start with a group of transfer students, perhaps we get together, have some food, "what are some problems you see that we might be able to solve" generarte a list of these things, have low hanging vs. harder items, essentially i think the school needs more resources, better
me telling them that is not as powerful as you telling them that; i see this as a possible transfer student experience where "this is quick win" "here's how we can improve communication" "here's a wicked problem where we need resources beyond what we can employ"
one of my personal advisees (itnterdisciplinary major, richardson) think he is the leader of the transfer student group, we are very connected, he also would be a good contact, perhaps the person who runs the tsu for krieger at least, not sure if different from whiting
wse & ksas used to be very much the same, but currently decentralized funding-wise; we have different administrators, also cue2 made us have different school requirements/policies, so we have sort of become more separate, and more separate, and more separate
students can change back and forth, so we sort of do want to put ourselves together,
we have 6 fas, but what it takes to complete is very different across ksas vs. wse, ksas, since arts and sciences, more lax requirements (not enginnering accreditidation); engineering took the perspective of "yes we have fa's" but "in engineering, what will help you develop into a good engineer, computer scientist?" so the slightly overlaid sciences; you might be able to submit a writing sample from your engineering class, and maybe it's only 6 instead of 15 for writing credits
ksas asks "what kind of education do we need to provide to raise a well-rounded liberal arts students" which is in contrast to an engineer
KSAS Advisory Council; separate from Student Ambassador (what i'm doing); kac is run by Braley; specific to more curricular things; looking at some advisor work with foundational abilities, working a lot with her on AI in the classroom, educating student on how to use it effectively, how to make it in the world, in the world of AI, but also to retain/achieve developmental skills without AI; i know she's working a lot with them on that
not sure about ksas; we just started Student Advising Ambassadors, just had our first meeting last month; my plan is to put them on our website by the end of semester; the kac, don't know if they have a central place
just put me in touch with anyone interested in the transfer focus group; anyone who has issues with their advisor direct them to me